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12-15-2003, 08:45 PM
I've been around to a few places asking people about this.
In some writings, their is a woman named Lilith, their are two ways that she existed, one was that originally God made "Adam" with two sides, in nthe front was Adam, and in the back was the face of Lilith, and the second way that she was, was that she was made the same way as Adam, (not a part of him). But in any, story of her, it says that she wanted to be treated equally, and when that didn't happen, she left Eden.
So basically what I'm asking is does any know anything else about her? and I also would to hear soe other opinions on her :D
12-16-2003, 12:55 AM
Nope, sorry! I've never heard of this at all...
12-16-2003, 08:45 AM
I'm getting all this from research, by no stretch am I an expert here....
This site (http://www.restoredcog.org/questions/p121.a.html) saysSome have suggested that this woman was Adam's first wife. However, the name Lilith does not even appear in the Bible. The Genesis account records that Eve was formed from one of Adam's ribs. Both were created on the same day (Gen. 1:26-28). That evening, God presented her to Adam and they were married.
Further proof of the fallacy of Lilith lies in the meaning of Eve's name: "mother of all living" (Gen. 3:20). Besides Adam, no other human beings existed.
This site (http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~humm/Topics/Lilith/overview.html) is much better and says that Lilith is actually older than Judaism and appears in a vast number of works. She does appear in the Bible (Isaiah), "in a context that associates her with demons of the desert", although it must be a different Bible than mine... and... Somewhere between the eighth and tenth centuries, CE, she makes an appearance in a satirical work entitled the Alphabet of Ben Sira. It is here that she is first given what has become her most famous persona: the first wife of Adam (before Eve). In this story, she is created at more or less the same time as Adam, and, as was Adam, out of the ground. Because of this she tries to assert her equality -- an assertion which Adam rejects. Refusing to conform to Adam's desires, she escapes from Eden, and is subsequently replaced by the more subservient Eve (who has less claim to equality, since she was made out of Adam's side). Having escaped Eden, Lilith takes on her renowned role as baby-stealer and mother of demons.
Feminists like to use this story (leaving out the baby-stealing part of course ;) ) to show that sometimes freedom and equality, while at a very great cost, can be achieved, but others also have used it to try and show what the consequences of assertiveness in women can be.
(edited by me 'cause I can't type)
12-16-2003, 08:59 AM
There's nothing in the Bible about Lilith.
12-16-2003, 10:49 AM
Well thank you for that :D
Yeah, I knew that she appeared after the bible, and that she wasn't actually in the Cristian, or Catholic bible, but she appears in many religions, ,so I just wanted to know a little bit more abobut her :D
12-16-2003, 06:17 PM
Never heard of that one. Great links, theyeti!!
02-24-2004, 04:47 PM
The Lilith myth suggests she was Adam's first wife and was dumped for Eve because she was too uppity; and they threw in all that business about blaming Eve for Adam's sin in the myth to put down women. There's a journal of Jewish Feminist spirituality called Lilith after the legend.
When I was about 9 I changed my first name to Lilith but it didn't last mainly because my idiot sister kept saying it "Lilas".
Once you leave the account of Adam and Even in the book of Genesis, Adam shoulders all of the blame for the fall of mankind, not Eve.Romans 5:12-15
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned-- 13 for until the Law sin was in the world; but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. 15 But the free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many.
1 Corinthians 15:22-23
22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive.
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