Kids these days

MAJORdorMo · 10-09-2006, 11:39 PM

My class is the most misbehaved class EVER!
Almost every day we have to stay in an extra 20 min after school because it takes that long for everyone to be quiet.
Also, every week at detention we have atleast 10 out of 35 kids!
I think we should bring back hitting kids. At first, I think my class wouldn't realy care, but after 1 smack in the behind, that will keep their butts in line!

Boo~Poo~Be~Do · 10-10-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MAJORdorMo

My class is the most misbehaved class EVER!
Almost every day we have to stay in an extra 20 min after school because it takes that long for everyone to be quiet.
Also, every week at detention we have atleast 10 out of 35 kids!
I think we should bring back hitting kids. At first, I think my class wouldn't realy care, but after 1 smack in the behind, that will keep their butts in line!

I understand your frustration, Major...

I homeschooled my daughter through her elementary years. She wanted to be a teacher when she 'grew up'... until she went into the public school system in her middle school years and saw the disrespect given teachers.

Disheartening, to say the least...

MAJORdorMo · 10-10-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo~Poo~Be~Do

I homeschooled my daughter through her elementary years. She wanted to be a teacher when she 'grew up'... until she went into the public school system in her middle school years and saw the disrespect given teachers.

The sad thing is, I go to a private, Catholic school...

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Originally Posted by Boo~Poo~Be~Do

Disheartening, to say the least...

Agreed.

dreuby · 10-11-2006, 06:07 AM

Trouble is, the actions of a few can completely disrupt the education of a whole class. In the UK, not only corporal punishment is banned - teachers are not allowed to physically touch a child in any way.

So if a small child is upset, or ill and waiting for a parent to collect them, the staff can't even put an arm around them to comfort them. A friend who was a teacher was telling me yesterday that while on a school trip to some underground caves, a girl had a panic attack. He shouldn't have touched her, but he felt he had to put his arm around her to comfort her and help her to calm down.

Justawoman · 10-11-2006, 12:45 PM

Do you all feel that spankings really work?

MAJORdorMo · 10-11-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Justawoman

Do you all feel that spankings really work?

Well, if it happens infront of a whole class, the student should be embarresed enough to keep himself in line.

jamesglewisf · 10-11-2006, 09:14 PM

Diane, that sounds like they've gone overboard. Zero-tolerance drives me nuts. It eliminates judgment and assumes everyone has bad motives.

MAJORdorMo · 10-11-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesglewisf

Diane, that sounds like they've gone overboard. Zero-tolerance drives me nuts. It eliminates judgment and assumes everyone has bad motives.

You haven't seen my class...

Radu · 10-12-2006, 12:17 AM

Most of the time (and I would hope this is the case in the UK) a zero-tolerance policy is merely a liability tool. It wouldn't be used unless somebody complains (like if that girl who had the panic attack complained that she was being harassed). Otherwise, they just look the other way.

Schools and companies usually just use it as a way to get rid of somebody, without any argument. If somebody complains that they were unduly punished or fired, the school can just point at the zero-tolerance policy. That's how I've understood it, anyway.

As for "kids these days", they just do what any person would do if they've learned that benefits outweigh consequences. If there parents only gave empty-threats, or weak punishments, then they've learned that they should get away with a lot. It's a hard mindset to break.

I'm not necessarily saying corporal punishment is the way to go, but some serious consequences need to be enforced. Unfortunately, if a kid wants attention, then some punishments are actually rewards. If a kid learns that he can get TONS of attention for 20 minutes after school, then he's going to keep doing stuff that will make the class stay 20 minutes after school.. That's just basic economics.

NeonCatEyez · 06-17-2010, 10:20 PM

I can't seem to grasp why on earth kids are so out of hand these days myself. It's my first year at community college and I dread one of my classes just because everyone is trying to be "funny" and cause distractions and other pointless drama just so the teacher can't teach. After HS I thought all that adolescent junk was behind me, nope, just the same!

jamesglewisf · 06-17-2010, 11:06 PM

18-25 <> maturity

Dude111 · 06-18-2010, 02:40 AM

Sometimes 18 isnt even mature Jim

10-09-2006, 11:39 PM	#1
MAJORdorMo Ooglezoot Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, California Posts: 30	Kids these days My class is the most misbehaved class EVER! Almost every day we have to stay in an extra 20 min after school because it takes that long for everyone to be quiet. Also, every week at detention we have atleast 10 out of 35 kids! I think we should bring back hitting kids. At first, I think my class wouldn't realy care, but after 1 smack in the behind, that will keep their butts in line!

10-11-2006, 06:07 AM	#4
dreuby Gigglesnort Charteroo Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: UK Posts: 3,190	Trouble is, the actions of a few can completely disrupt the education of a whole class. In the UK, not only corporal punishment is banned - teachers are not allowed to physically touch a child in any way. So if a small child is upset, or ill and waiting for a parent to collect them, the staff can't even put an arm around them to comfort them. A friend who was a teacher was telling me yesterday that while on a school trip to some underground caves, a girl had a panic attack. He shouldn't have touched her, but he felt he had to put his arm around her to comfort her and help her to calm down. __________________ Dianne Reuby Easter Family Genealogy Easter Family Blog

10-11-2006, 12:45 PM	#5
Justawoman Justamoderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 7,091	Do you all feel that spankings really work? __________________ You know you have had too much coffee when someone says,"how are you?", and you say,"good to the last drop."

10-11-2006, 09:14 PM	#7
jamesglewisf Doofus Maximus Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Texas Posts: 8,401	Diane, that sounds like they've gone overboard. Zero-tolerance drives me nuts. It eliminates judgment and assumes everyone has bad motives. __________________ Jim Lewis - Admin Tipping Etiquette Dining Etiquette JamesGLewis.com iPhone Tip Guide Movies Without Nudity.com To BE or not to BE

10-12-2006, 12:17 AM	#9
Radu Pretentious Intellectual Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: BYU Posts: 703	Most of the time (and I would hope this is the case in the UK) a zero-tolerance policy is merely a liability tool. It wouldn't be used unless somebody complains (like if that girl who had the panic attack complained that she was being harassed). Otherwise, they just look the other way. Schools and companies usually just use it as a way to get rid of somebody, without any argument. If somebody complains that they were unduly punished or fired, the school can just point at the zero-tolerance policy. That's how I've understood it, anyway. As for "kids these days", they just do what any person would do if they've learned that benefits outweigh consequences. If there parents only gave empty-threats, or weak punishments, then they've learned that they should get away with a lot. It's a hard mindset to break. I'm not necessarily saying corporal punishment is the way to go, but some serious consequences need to be enforced. Unfortunately, if a kid wants attention, then some punishments are actually rewards. If a kid learns that he can get TONS of attention for 20 minutes after school, then he's going to keep doing stuff that will make the class stay 20 minutes after school.. That's just basic economics. __________________

06-17-2010, 10:20 PM	#10
NeonCatEyez Smart Feller Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3	I can't seem to grasp why on earth kids are so out of hand these days myself. It's my first year at community college and I dread one of my classes just because everyone is trying to be "funny" and cause distractions and other pointless drama just so the teacher can't teach. After HS I thought all that adolescent junk was behind me, nope, just the same!

06-17-2010, 11:06 PM	#11
jamesglewisf Doofus Maximus Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Texas Posts: 8,401	18-25 <> maturity __________________ Jim Lewis - Admin Tipping Etiquette Dining Etiquette JamesGLewis.com iPhone Tip Guide Movies Without Nudity.com To BE or not to BE

06-18-2010, 02:40 AM	#12
Dude111 An Awesome Dude Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,844	Sometimes 18 isnt even mature Jim