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Smart Feller
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Doofus Maximus
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From "The MacArthur New Testament Commentary Matthew 1-7"
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Doofus Maximus
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Here is the whole passage in the New American Standard version, which is supposed to be the most literal word-for-word translation.
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Doofus Maximus
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A more problematic interpretation is that they first saw the star in the east, and then it led them to Jerusalem. But why would it lead them to Jerusalem and then stop. Why would they then have to inquire and be told to go to Bethlehem? And then why would it appear and lead them directly to the child. If the star had led them from the east, it would have just taken them straight to Jesus in Bethlehem.
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Smart Feller
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OK, I can accept that at the time the Wise Men first saw the star in the east, it was a sign of Christ's birth (though how they determined this is not said). They travelled to Jerusalem (why Jerusalem is not explained), and were sent on to Bethlehem by Herod.
Here is the tricky part; Bethlehem lies to the south and west of Jerusalem. Matthew 2:9 says: Quote:
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Doofus Maximus
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Good questions.
If the Holy Spirit can overshadow Mary and make a virgin pregnant with the Son of God, then He can make a star move from some place in the east to Bethlehem, and then make it stand still over the location of Jesus. If you are going to dismiss the supernatural, then you are dismissing Jesus and the Bible because Jesus is God incarnate, and the Bible is His word.
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Matthew 2:2 "... for we saw his star in the east"
I've taken this to mean that the magi were in the east, from where the star was visible. The star itself wasn't necessarily in the east, just visible from there. |
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